When I watched the video of the kids singing to Obama, it creeped me out.
The people who follow Obama are starting to really freak me out they are so blindly in love with him they will use their children. It reminded me of North Korea.
Unfortunately, no one recognizes cultic behavior who is engaging in such behavior; it takes an intervention and truth. Whether it was an intentional act of blind love toward Obama or not, to avoid such comparisons to fascists or other dictatorial leaders, it would have been pertinent for Obama to distance himself from such propaganda; the fact that he hasn't says more about Obama than all of his stuttering and inexperience does; he is the American Cult of Personality and to speak against him is anathema? Why does he need children to speak his praises if he does not himself believe he is the Messiah? Der Obama ist sehr gut. What would his supporters say if this was an add for McCain?
I can muse on it but then I am disappointed because I know you can do so much better than this. James you’ve successfully Godwined your own blog and t’s only downhill from here. Rather than petty name calling, maybe we could have a “national conversation” about coming together as one nation. Maybe we could leave the schoolyard BS at home and start to talk about solutions. It’s really sad that anyone who has hope for the future is automatically thrown outside the norm into some strange cult that believes things can be better.
Thank you James for feeding the partisan beast that binds us.
I’d also suggest you check your history books to see Hitler was national socialist, but it’s cute how you tried to attach Hitler, to liberal, and to Obama.
Zach, don't worry. No one would try to take away the Democrat's term for Bush. After all, then you'd have to think up something, oh, I don't know, original?
Don't wet yourself. How's that for cute and sarcastic.
What is it with lefties and the hate thing anyway? Hate, hate, hate, conservatives hate! Yeah, OK. Tell that to Sarah Palin. Besides, everybody who knows me says that I am the most loving person imaginable... just ask Charlie Sykes.
As for having a national conversation on "coming together as one nation," as soon as Obama loses and you agree with conservatism we can get started.
Until then, it's my bloggy and I'll rant if I want to.
PS. Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning. Great book by Jonah Goldberg.
I love this blog! I trust that all of us that read and occasionally participate appreciate what our own JT Harris has openly shared with us. Here, as long as we are not blindly abusive, we can share our thoughts. James enjoys the spice of life that spirited conversion brings. As for who's more angry, who's called who more names, who misquoted who...who cares, it's all good. Lefties and righties are both guilty of what; being passionate, usually exaggerating to make a point? Keep it up, I love this blog!
Cute is as cute does, but I was hoping for something more clever.
Given your last post I would suggest you check yourself for dryness.
Now, who’s talking about Sarah Palin? Did I say something hateful about her? I must have missed it or are you arguing a point I didn’t make? Seems like a bit of a red herring. Plus, my impression is that the right wing wind is beginning to blow the other direction on her so I’m surprised you are bringing her up.
It sounds creepy, but I know you pretty well and I know you are a very loving person. That is why I know you can be better than this. I fully realize the ranting and shock jock bloggery probably pays the bills better than calm, well reasoned dialogue, but I think you are doing yourself a disservice by stooping to this level of loud mouthed demagoguery. Where do these posts leave us? How do we move forward from here? James, you are a bright guy who probably has ideas about these questions.
But we don’t see them here.
I can get loud partisanship anywhere on the internet and I know you are smart enough to rise above it. It saddens me that you don’t.
P.S. I’d be careful citing Mr. Goldberg to prove a point. He seems to have problems with revisionist history and comes off as evenhanded and credible as Michael Moore.
I enjoy these topical discussions the best. When each person explains his / her views from his / her perspective, we converse. When a post takes it personal, even if well intended, anger and angst are generated between us. Let's take shots at each others views, opinions, and statements, not at each other. Try it, it's a lot harder! NObama, wow I like it!
Don't be saddened. I'm like most people you know, occasionally brilliant and sometimes stupid.
And if you really know me, like for real and not through blog world, you would know that "shock jock bloggery" pays me nothing...NOTHING! You would also know that there is nothing "calm and well reasoned" about me. I'm loud, excitable and usually dead on, like in ridiculing Obama's youth choir.
I was trying to think of a way to help you see what we see through eyes colored by a conservative world view. The easiest is to simply turn the tables. If this were a childrens choir singing praise to John McCain or George Bush, you would be a little creeped out by it, I would venture to guess.
Add to this the statue made of chocolate that was in the likeness of Obama / Jesus. Add to that a web site that seriously asks the question whether Barack Obama is the messiah. Are you starting to see what we see from the conservative perspective? He is being elevated and revered in ways that are beyond normal political support.
This man is being elevated to the highest office of power and influence in the world based on, what? The belief that he can change things? There is nothing in his history that indicates he can deliver on that slogan. Slogans and well delivered speeches are no comparison for a history of action that can be evalulated.
What James did is what many of us thought when we heard those kids. Now think about this from the perspective of a parent of even a family member. Winding your 4-7 years olds up about politics, especially when nothing is ever for sure in that world ... it just seems like a recipe for creating the next generation of disheartened young folks with no knowledge of or faith in the political system. It's like robbing the kids of a chance to learn about this stuff in their own time. It seemed waaay to creepy when I saw it elsewhere on the web. The first thing I thought wasn't nazis but the communist revolution and the old soviet anthem. But that is just me. I'd have no problem with a choir of adults singing Obama's praises (it is their right to), but I received this video with the same disgust an athiest sees Jesus Camp. Pure indoctrination from youth onward.
Mainstream conservatism has failed, utterly and completely. I think you know it Mr. Harris or shall i call you James. James I know this is schtick. You can't seriously believe McCain offers a better promisr than Obama can you? Just come out and say it puhleease? Yea if Obama is a socialist what the hell is George Bush? Obama didn't come out with this bailout/buy-in plan. Oh by the way I think people who listen to El Rushbo are just as worse as Obama followers. "It's such an honor and privlege to be talking to you El Rushbo". That man has filled up more toilet bowls with crap, than halftime at a Packers game. Get off the man's jock.
It gets kind of sad that politics in general get so heated and personal. And time after time nothing gets done. People yelling "Kill Him" about Obama at McCain rallies. Great job showing your hometown values. Show some more ignorance. Go read a book you fucking dummies.
"I reach across the isle" bullshit. I am only 34 years old and I have been listening to these blowhards talk about Health Care and Social Security since I was a kid. It's all posturing. They get nothing done because they spend most of their time raising money to get re-elected. I have long been a John McCain fan. Even after he cow towed to the extreme right to try and shore up his base. I have always considered myself a Republican at heart (Which can be tough here in Massachusetts), But where are all of the real conservatives. The old "Tax and Spend liberal" propaganda isn't selling anymore either. Bush has spent more money than the last ten presidents combined. And I hate to say it but he fucked up everything he touched after 9/11. The fact that McCain is losing is not due to the "Obama" hype. He is being judged for the last eight years. I don't think McCain can come back from this. Plus I do agree he has been very erratic. Shutting down the campaign....Picking Govenor "Joe Sixpack". (I've only been at this five weeks)Palin. And now all he has left is something he should have been hammering home months ago and calling Obama's past into question. People get turned off to this negative crap. Plus this is something we where taking about when Hilary was still in the picture. Who is running his campaign? Obama comes across as steady and in control on tv. Plus with how bad Bush has fucked things up. I am surprised it's even as close as it is.
Whoever gets elected please get something done for once.
It gets kind of sad that politics in general get so heated and personal. And time after time nothing gets done. People yelling "Kill Him" about Obama at McCain rallies. Great job showing your hometown values. Show some more ignorance. Go read a book you fucking dummies.
"I reach across the isle" bullshit. I am only 34 years old and I have been listening to these blowhards talk about Health Care and Social Security since I was a kid. It's all posturing. They get nothing done because they spend most of their time raising money to get re-elected. I have long been a John McCain fan. Even after he cow towed to the extreme right to try and shore up his base. I have always considered myself a Republican at heart (Which can be tough here in Massachusetts), But where are all of the real conservatives. The old "Tax and Spend liberal" propaganda isn't selling anymore either. Bush has spent more money than the last ten presidents combined. And I hate to say it but he fucked up everything he touched after 9/11. The fact that McCain is losing is not due to the "Obama" hype. He is being judged for the last eight years. I don't think McCain can come back from this. Plus I do agree he has been very erratic. Shutting down the campaign....Picking Govenor "Joe Sixpack". (I've only been at this five weeks)Palin. And now all he has left is something he should have been hammering home months ago and calling Obama's past into question. People get turned off to this negative crap. Plus this is something we where taking about when Hilary was still in the picture. Who is running his campaign? Obama comes across as steady and in control on tv. Plus with how bad Bush has fucked things up. I am surprised it's even as close as it is.
Whoever gets elected please get something done for once.
How low can you go Mr. Harris? How low can you go?
Posted by: Fired Up | September 30, 2008 at 05:08 PM
I'm sure he can go even lower than comparing Obama to Nazis. After all, that's why he's James "Hip Musings" Harris.
Posted by: Zach W. | September 30, 2008 at 06:56 PM
Zach W.,
I'm not comparing Obama to Nazis. I'm saying that followers of "the One" (like you) are sycophant worshipers in his cult of personality.
Besides, Hitler was a Liberal Fascist. Obama is just an elitist, radical, liberal empty suit. Both are bad but there is a big difference...
Hitler had more talent (he as a failed artist) while the Chocolate Jesus was a community organizer (whatever that is).
Muse on that for a while.
Posted by: James T | September 30, 2008 at 08:57 PM
James,
When I watched the video of the kids singing to Obama, it creeped me out.
The people who follow Obama are starting to really freak me out they are so blindly in love with him they will use their children. It reminded me of North Korea.
Posted by: Sherrie Bindrim | October 01, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
George Santayana
Posted by: soxfan | October 01, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Unfortunately, no one recognizes cultic behavior who is engaging in such behavior; it takes an intervention and truth. Whether it was an intentional act of blind love toward Obama or not, to avoid such comparisons to fascists or other dictatorial leaders, it would have been pertinent for Obama to distance himself from such propaganda; the fact that he hasn't says more about Obama than all of his stuttering and inexperience does; he is the American Cult of Personality and to speak against him is anathema? Why does he need children to speak his praises if he does not himself believe he is the Messiah? Der Obama ist sehr gut. What would his supporters say if this was an add for McCain?
Posted by: Rev. Steven P. Beck | October 01, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Muse on what?
The hate and empty name calling?
I can muse on it but then I am disappointed because I know you can do so much better than this. James you’ve successfully Godwined your own blog and t’s only downhill from here. Rather than petty name calling, maybe we could have a “national conversation” about coming together as one nation. Maybe we could leave the schoolyard BS at home and start to talk about solutions. It’s really sad that anyone who has hope for the future is automatically thrown outside the norm into some strange cult that believes things can be better.
Thank you James for feeding the partisan beast that binds us.
I’d also suggest you check your history books to see Hitler was national socialist, but it’s cute how you tried to attach Hitler, to liberal, and to Obama.
I can’t wait for the cute sarcastic retort,
BMP
Posted by: BretMichaelsPants | October 01, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Zach, don't worry. No one would try to take away the Democrat's term for Bush. After all, then you'd have to think up something, oh, I don't know, original?
Posted by: Billiam | October 01, 2008 at 11:46 AM
be careful what you wish for you just might get it
Posted by: soxfan | October 01, 2008 at 12:28 PM
BretMichaelsPants,
Don't wet yourself. How's that for cute and sarcastic.
What is it with lefties and the hate thing anyway? Hate, hate, hate, conservatives hate! Yeah, OK. Tell that to Sarah Palin. Besides, everybody who knows me says that I am the most loving person imaginable... just ask Charlie Sykes.
As for having a national conversation on "coming together as one nation," as soon as Obama loses and you agree with conservatism we can get started.
Until then, it's my bloggy and I'll rant if I want to.
PS. Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning. Great book by Jonah Goldberg.
Liberal Fascist.
Posted by: James T | October 01, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Looks like a pretty fair comparison to me.
Posted by: Kate | October 01, 2008 at 01:44 PM
I love this blog! I trust that all of us that read and occasionally participate appreciate what our own JT Harris has openly shared with us. Here, as long as we are not blindly abusive, we can share our thoughts. James enjoys the spice of life that spirited conversion brings. As for who's more angry, who's called who more names, who misquoted who...who cares, it's all good. Lefties and righties are both guilty of what; being passionate, usually exaggerating to make a point? Keep it up, I love this blog!
Posted by: uncle ed | October 01, 2008 at 02:17 PM
Cute is as cute does, but I was hoping for something more clever.
Given your last post I would suggest you check yourself for dryness.
Now, who’s talking about Sarah Palin? Did I say something hateful about her? I must have missed it or are you arguing a point I didn’t make? Seems like a bit of a red herring. Plus, my impression is that the right wing wind is beginning to blow the other direction on her so I’m surprised you are bringing her up.
It sounds creepy, but I know you pretty well and I know you are a very loving person. That is why I know you can be better than this. I fully realize the ranting and shock jock bloggery probably pays the bills better than calm, well reasoned dialogue, but I think you are doing yourself a disservice by stooping to this level of loud mouthed demagoguery. Where do these posts leave us? How do we move forward from here? James, you are a bright guy who probably has ideas about these questions.
But we don’t see them here.
I can get loud partisanship anywhere on the internet and I know you are smart enough to rise above it. It saddens me that you don’t.
P.S. I’d be careful citing Mr. Goldberg to prove a point. He seems to have problems with revisionist history and comes off as evenhanded and credible as Michael Moore.
BMP
Posted by: BretMichaelsPants | October 01, 2008 at 02:23 PM
Uncle Ed!
Where you been? Shut up with the niceties and jump into this fight!
The free world is at stake! NObama!
Posted by: James T | October 01, 2008 at 02:25 PM
I enjoy these topical discussions the best. When each person explains his / her views from his / her perspective, we converse. When a post takes it personal, even if well intended, anger and angst are generated between us. Let's take shots at each others views, opinions, and statements, not at each other. Try it, it's a lot harder! NObama, wow I like it!
Posted by: uncle ed | October 01, 2008 at 02:58 PM
BMP,
Don't be saddened. I'm like most people you know, occasionally brilliant and sometimes stupid.
And if you really know me, like for real and not through blog world, you would know that "shock jock bloggery" pays me nothing...NOTHING! You would also know that there is nothing "calm and well reasoned" about me. I'm loud, excitable and usually dead on, like in ridiculing Obama's youth choir.
That's what makes me lovable… Just ask my wife!
Posted by: James T | October 01, 2008 at 03:44 PM
Alright, in the spirit of coming together, is there anyone who doesn't think that video of the kids lauding Obama in song is goofy at best?
Posted by: John S | October 01, 2008 at 06:21 PM
I want some of what BMP is smoking.
Posted by: Heather | October 01, 2008 at 08:53 PM
BMP,
I was trying to think of a way to help you see what we see through eyes colored by a conservative world view. The easiest is to simply turn the tables. If this were a childrens choir singing praise to John McCain or George Bush, you would be a little creeped out by it, I would venture to guess.
Add to this the statue made of chocolate that was in the likeness of Obama / Jesus. Add to that a web site that seriously asks the question whether Barack Obama is the messiah. Are you starting to see what we see from the conservative perspective? He is being elevated and revered in ways that are beyond normal political support.
This man is being elevated to the highest office of power and influence in the world based on, what? The belief that he can change things? There is nothing in his history that indicates he can deliver on that slogan. Slogans and well delivered speeches are no comparison for a history of action that can be evalulated.
Posted by: Cookers | October 01, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Finally, someone who understands and more importantly REMEMBERS history.
Thank you Mr. Harris.
Posted by: Soup Sandwich | October 02, 2008 at 02:12 AM
What James did is what many of us thought when we heard those kids. Now think about this from the perspective of a parent of even a family member. Winding your 4-7 years olds up about politics, especially when nothing is ever for sure in that world ... it just seems like a recipe for creating the next generation of disheartened young folks with no knowledge of or faith in the political system. It's like robbing the kids of a chance to learn about this stuff in their own time. It seemed waaay to creepy when I saw it elsewhere on the web. The first thing I thought wasn't nazis but the communist revolution and the old soviet anthem. But that is just me. I'd have no problem with a choir of adults singing Obama's praises (it is their right to), but I received this video with the same disgust an athiest sees Jesus Camp. Pure indoctrination from youth onward.
Posted by: LegioNofZioN | October 02, 2008 at 07:49 AM
Mainstream conservatism has failed, utterly and completely. I think you know it Mr. Harris or shall i call you James. James I know this is schtick. You can't seriously believe McCain offers a better promisr than Obama can you? Just come out and say it puhleease? Yea if Obama is a socialist what the hell is George Bush? Obama didn't come out with this bailout/buy-in plan. Oh by the way I think people who listen to El Rushbo are just as worse as Obama followers. "It's such an honor and privlege to be talking to you El Rushbo". That man has filled up more toilet bowls with crap, than halftime at a Packers game. Get off the man's jock.
Posted by: Fired Up | October 02, 2008 at 05:23 PM
Fired Up,
It's obvious... You don't know me.
Posted by: James T | October 03, 2008 at 12:05 AM
It gets kind of sad that politics in general get so heated and personal. And time after time nothing gets done. People yelling "Kill Him" about Obama at McCain rallies. Great job showing your hometown values. Show some more ignorance. Go read a book you fucking dummies.
"I reach across the isle" bullshit. I am only 34 years old and I have been listening to these blowhards talk about Health Care and Social Security since I was a kid. It's all posturing. They get nothing done because they spend most of their time raising money to get re-elected. I have long been a John McCain fan. Even after he cow towed to the extreme right to try and shore up his base. I have always considered myself a Republican at heart (Which can be tough here in Massachusetts), But where are all of the real conservatives. The old "Tax and Spend liberal" propaganda isn't selling anymore either. Bush has spent more money than the last ten presidents combined. And I hate to say it but he fucked up everything he touched after 9/11. The fact that McCain is losing is not due to the "Obama" hype. He is being judged for the last eight years. I don't think McCain can come back from this. Plus I do agree he has been very erratic. Shutting down the campaign....Picking Govenor "Joe Sixpack". (I've only been at this five weeks)Palin. And now all he has left is something he should have been hammering home months ago and calling Obama's past into question. People get turned off to this negative crap. Plus this is something we where taking about when Hilary was still in the picture. Who is running his campaign? Obama comes across as steady and in control on tv. Plus with how bad Bush has fucked things up. I am surprised it's even as close as it is.
Whoever gets elected please get something done for once.
Posted by: Matthew Foster | October 09, 2008 at 10:23 PM
It gets kind of sad that politics in general get so heated and personal. And time after time nothing gets done. People yelling "Kill Him" about Obama at McCain rallies. Great job showing your hometown values. Show some more ignorance. Go read a book you fucking dummies.
"I reach across the isle" bullshit. I am only 34 years old and I have been listening to these blowhards talk about Health Care and Social Security since I was a kid. It's all posturing. They get nothing done because they spend most of their time raising money to get re-elected. I have long been a John McCain fan. Even after he cow towed to the extreme right to try and shore up his base. I have always considered myself a Republican at heart (Which can be tough here in Massachusetts), But where are all of the real conservatives. The old "Tax and Spend liberal" propaganda isn't selling anymore either. Bush has spent more money than the last ten presidents combined. And I hate to say it but he fucked up everything he touched after 9/11. The fact that McCain is losing is not due to the "Obama" hype. He is being judged for the last eight years. I don't think McCain can come back from this. Plus I do agree he has been very erratic. Shutting down the campaign....Picking Govenor "Joe Sixpack". (I've only been at this five weeks)Palin. And now all he has left is something he should have been hammering home months ago and calling Obama's past into question. People get turned off to this negative crap. Plus this is something we where taking about when Hilary was still in the picture. Who is running his campaign? Obama comes across as steady and in control on tv. Plus with how bad Bush has fucked things up. I am surprised it's even as close as it is.
Whoever gets elected please get something done for once.
Posted by: Matthew Foster | October 09, 2008 at 10:25 PM