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November 25, 2010

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steveegg

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, James.

derek

Yeah, and then those native americans came along and sold their food to the highest bidder and the colonists were saved...

oh wait.

How do you seriously whitewash native americans out of a thanksgiving tale?
What's next, the civil rights movement without black people?

derek

happy thanksgiving BTW

Frank

derek, your a f'n idoit.

LegioNofZioN

Happy Thanksgiving my American brethren.

Derek I hope you truly understand what the video is showcasing, it doesn't supplant the story of Thanksgiving, it completes it.

derek

A story about how the white european settlers pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps due to the virtues of capitalism doesn't supplant the thanksgiving story? The one where the settlers are starving until they get free aid from another people?

Hah.

Maddypie

gnat drinks commie jackass hussein homemade kool aid for a living.
He has become bloated and orange!

James T.

Here ya go Derek:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704243904575630924186839034.html

John Boehner

Nuddin' wrongs wit' da bloated and orange!

Andrew

Derek must have gone to the same primary school I did...my 3rd grade teacher tried to tell us that the dumb white people didn't know how to farm or hunt until the noble "native peoples" taught them how. Fortunately, Charles M. Schultz taught me that same year that the real miracle was that the Mayflower arrived at all.Speaking of commies, Maddypie, did you ever wonder about the word "commonwealth?" I think people like Derek invented it. Hope Y'all had a great Thanksgiving Day!

Maddypie

Andrew, The likes of gnat and other kool-aid drinkers is that they can't think for themselves.
They regurgitate the words of their master's.
They are a lost cause and really have no merit in how we bring America back.
We don't need them and I don't want them.
When the government no longer takes care of their needs they will become disillusioned dogs on the road to extinction.
They will live a miserable life as misfits.

Chris

lol.. I'd love for you all to meet Dr. John Boatman, Professor of Native American Studies at UW-Milwaukee. While possibly being one of the smartest people I've ever encountered, and a member of the Menomonee tribe, he is also possessor of some original documents regarding the "settling" of America, specifically the east coast Puritans.

The anecdotal novelistic stories you hear in History class are definitely a whitewash, knowing some of the things that actually went on in those times. Puritans may have a few stories of how they acted in reverence to the help of the Native Americans, however the truth is FAR from that.

Widespread writings by Natives and settlers alike describe horrors and atrocities that, if presented to studious children, would give them nightmares for years to come. No wonder they don't teach it in "elementary" school....

Maddypie

Um yeah chrissy the natives have no agenda or no reason to tell the story their own way.
Oh chrissy go hang with your authentic native and believe what ever you want.
God knows you need someone to worship so why not this dude.

Every since you came to James site you have been under the misunderstanding of thinking anyone here really cares.
All you are here for is to "one up us" and get some psychotic need for attention.
And because even I am not truly heartless to the afflicted I will now wish you Good Day!

James T.

I read the fist half of Chrissy's comments before I caught myself...

I'll say what Maddypie wouldn't... You are a fool.

Chris

k, so having actually read documents wrote by actual settlers describing the torturous genocidal things they did, I guess that makes me a fool???

Not sure how you come up with your ideas, but they are definitely absent of thinking.

I don't post here because I fell the need to one up you, you are basically ignorant, and I am basically saying you are as such, nothing more. So be ignorant all you want, but don't expect me to let you post this ass-backwards political spun mumbo jumbo as fact, cuz I won't.

You have earned my wrath and the wrath of those you undermine and supplant.

Chris

k, so having actually read documents wrote by actual settlers describing the torturous genocidal things they did, I guess that makes me a fool???

Not sure how you come up with your ideas, but they are definitely absent of thinking.

I don't post here because I fell the need to one up you, you are basically ignorant, and I am basically saying you are as such, nothing more. So be ignorant all you want, but don't expect me to let you post this ass-backwards political spun mumbo jumbo as fact, cuz I won't.

You have earned my wrath and the wrath of those you undermine and supplant.

Maddypie

LMAO!!
priceless moth, just priceless!

So let me see, instead of going away as you threatened months ago, now your new plan of attack is to post the same comment twice. LMAO you...are...a...fool!

Chris

and you are just plain ignorant.

Andrew

Chris, nothing could be more ignorant than you using the term "native American," at least here in Oklahoma...you, know, Indian territory? They prefer to be called by their rightful names- Miami, Shawnee, Quawpaw, Adawe, et cetera. Just so you know, all the tribes here celebrate Thanksgiving. They even celebrate Columbus Day.

James T.

Andrew,

My family is part of the Choctaw Nation. Freed Slaves "hooked up" with Choctaw and a few other nations. Liberals like Chris who have "actually read documents wrote by actual settlers" make me want to puke.

I've got stories! No culture has a corner on torture and cruelty.

Chris

oh Andrew, my bad, Native American is offensive but referring to them as "Indians" is cool. I am Cherokee myself, you should know something about Cherokee being from Oklahoma.

So I guess the Trail of Tears never happened huh James.. and the mass gentrification and genocides all over the eastern seaboard and midwest were just fabrications?

Several tribes are gone and never to be heard from again. Effin "Indian Wars" happened all the way up to the 1890s. Terms like "civilizing", Manifest Destiny, and the Indian Removal Act are just figments of my imagination?????

This is not about who has a "corner" on torture and cruelty, this is about you making sure the people responsible for what amounts to no less than mass murder go on being hailed for their "contribution" to the American way of life.

Disgusting... you make me want to puke as well.

Andrew

Actually, "Indian" is an excepted term. The American Indian Movement (A.I.M.) will tell you that, if you ask them. "Native American" is a term created by the government in order to make the census easier. Yes, the Trail of Tears happened. So did slavery, and there was a time in America when even white women were not allowed to vote. Heck, there was a time when blacks were treated better than Jews, Irish or Italians. James has a valid point, no culture "owns" suffering or cruelty. We have had our horrors, and we still have much work to do, but most of us believe America is a good place and has been built here is worth celebrating and preserving.

Frank

Different factions have battled each other for centuries, unfortunately it's what we do, or is it unfortunate, depending on what your battling for? Did you ever play that kids game where you whisper into someone's ear and they pass it on to the next one down the line until you get to the last umpteenth kid and that kids version sounds nothing like the first kids? Stories will change to suit the story teller for many reasons. Wether it's pride, or guilt, blame, whatever it may be, stories will be told and passed on full of holes. It's human nature. Even with todays technology and wonderful digital cameras that can capture an event, can be edited to tell a story one way or the other. Get over your self.

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