Blacks are Republicans (Morally speaking)

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Jesus take the wheel!

So I contnue to ask... why do blacks vote Democrat? Can you say dependency?

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[Patrick Austin]

That one is easy.

Blacks may believe in some of the Republican platform, but they wholeheartedly don't believe in legislating what people do in their private lives.

I'm uneasy with how gay activists equate the gay rights struggle with the Civil rights struggle of the 60's. I can't hide my skin color. You can hide being gay. However, I'm not going to raise hell because gay people want to equate them and use the same language.

The Right is raising hell over semantics. "Don't call it a marriage! Call it a civil union."

It is really that serious? Let them call it what they want. The words they choose won't hurt you.

It feels very much like "you can't use our bathroom. use the one over there."

[maddypie@]

@patrickaustin, Why do moral values based on religious belief equate in your mind "you can't use our bathroom" or "move to the back of the bus?"

"The Right is raising hell over semantics. "Don't call it a marriage! Call it a civil union."

If stating our opinion and backing it up with our reasons is "raising hell" then you are half right.

We are raising Holly Hell!

Please explain why I have no right to do this??

[James T.]

Which bathroom should gay, transgenders, transexuals use? Are they all the same? Maybe we should just eliminate men and women's bathroom and force everyone to go uni-sex? What is uni-sex? What is bi?

Semantics? Words use to mean things... Now I'm really confused.

[Stu]

"Blacks may believe in some of the Republican platform, but they wholeheartedly don't believe in legislating what people do in their private lives."

Man this is tired. Liberals tell you where to smoke, what to drive, what you can do on your own property, what to eat, what to drink, and what to think based on whatever their whim.

Want proof? Try to wander away from the plantation, especially if you are of color or a woman. You have to look no further than the keeper of this blog to find out what happens to you.

[Patrick Austin]

James, you are right, words do mean things, but I don't think we should be legislating which words a group of people should use. Not everyone feels the same way about words that we do.

If it makes you feel better, you don't have to refer to a married gay couple as "married". You can say they are "civil unionized". Problem solved. If them saying they are married makes them feel good and it's not hurting anybody else, let them be.

Maddy, I know I opened up this can of worms and I know it's difficult to bring it up without someone claiming I'm "being the victim" or "playing the race card", but the bible was also used to justify slavery. Spending a few minutes on google will give you all the evidence of that. So "moral values based on religious belief" doesn't give you a "no criticism" pass.

Stu, do liberals tell you where you can smoke in your own home?

[Patrick Austin]

I don't understand how the Republican stance on gay marriage is at all Conservative. The one Republican I've seen who is consistently conservative across the board is Ron Paul.

When asked if he was supportive of gay marriage Paul responded "I am supportive of all voluntary associations and people can call it whatever they want."

Exactly. It's no one elses business.

[Joyce]

Stu you are right on. @Patrick... not yet legislating smoking in the home (I do not smoke)... however I believe they are dictating what temperature to set the thermostat in your home, what light bulbs to use.

[putoparvose]

does not this just continue and reinforce racism?

[putoparvose]

I just spent a few minutes at the National Vital Statistics web site http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/nvsr.htm and found this gallop poll was lacking. the NVS deals with most of the issues in the gallop poll and breaks it down into many groups with explanations of how it was all put together.

sadly when we look at polls they only sample a small section of the population so you can have room for great error. the .gov site used far larger data pool so the results will be more accurate. but hey if you would rather look for things to prove your assumptions are right rather than try to find out the facts they do say ignorance is bliss.

[maddypie@]

@Patrick, I understand now why libs are "left" because you guys bring things into the topic out of left field.

I do not accept, condone or believe in gay marriage due to my religious beliefs.

Now what that has to do with slavery is beyond little ole me.

And I don't know that I am criticizing people who believe in gay marriage when I state my view. I am just saying I don't believe in it.

But we have definitely seen what can happen when the view is against gay marriage. Its not just critizsim, it is character assassination.

[putoparvose]

@ Maddy,

you said "I do not accept, condone or believe in gay marriage due to my religious beliefs." do you think the constitution is a legal or moral document?

[James T.]

@putoparvose

Both!

[putoparvose]

@ James

I will accept that so let us go one step further. do you think of it as a religious document?

[James T.]

@putopavose

No!

[Patrick Austin]

Maddy, I have no problem with you being against gay marriage or stating your view. I had no problem with Ms. California stating her view. (And BTW, I think Perez Hilton is an idiot.) I have a problem with trying to legislate against gay marriage because you don't like it. Or because you or anyone else want ownership of the word "marriage".

[putoparvose]

James then I would say i have to defer to the great Barry Goldwater who said "You don't have to agree with it, but they have a constitutional right to be gay. And that's what brings me into it."

I use this to help me see the difference between what is morally wrong and what is legally wrong. I have to set my morals aside when i deal with legal issues being a true Conservative I have no choice unless i want to say the Constitution only matters when i agree with it.

if i allow one groups rights to be taken away i have just allowed my rights to be taken away.

being a true Conservative is not the easy road the new bogus cons have made it

[Brenda]

@putoparvose "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness!" Gay people already have the constitutional right to be gay. They would like to re-define marriage...that is not a constitutional issue.

[putoparvose]

@Brenda sure it is a Constitutional issue. as far as the government is concerned it is a contract between two people. as far as the church is concerned it is a union between two people but the Constitution is not a religious document so we have to set our religious beliefs aside when we deal with legal matters.

I fully understand this is hard to do but if you want to call yourself a true Conservative who believes in the Constitution you must.

[maddypie@]

@putoparvose, James took the words right out of my mouth and I concur on his next answer too.

@Patrick, Why I am I not allowed to legislate against something I don't believe in.

[putoparvose]

@Maddy I would also agree with James

I would say you can lobby for legislation against things you do not believe in unless that legislation is prohibited by the Constitution. Then you have two choices do you accept the Constitution as it is or do you work to change it.

[Patrick Austin]

Maddy, why not just legislate that being gay is illegal? Cut out the middle man. Get straight to it.

[maddypie@]

@Patrick,

"Maddy, why not just legislate that being gay is illegal? Cut out the middle man. Get straight to it."

Because Patrick I am not a "lib" I am a "Conservative"

[putoparvose]

Patrick

"You don't have to agree with it, but they have a constitutional right to be gay. And that's what brings me into it." Barry Goldwater

that was said by the man who convinced Reagan to be a Republican (that was before the darksi errrrr greed seduced Ronald) So I must ask what could be more conservative than to protect EVERYONE'S constitutional rights just as they are?

[maddypie@]

@putoparvose, In answer to your question I would not change our Constitution.

As long as bo and the dems leave it alone it has served us well for 233 years and should continue to do so.

[Derek]

Republicans aren't even republican, morally speaking.